Sunday, September 26, 2010

$93,000 cancer drug: How much is a life worth?


BOSTON – Cancer patients, brace yourselves. Many new drug treatments cost nearly $100,000 a year, sparking fresh debate about how much a few months more of life is worth.

The latest is Provenge, a first-of-a-kind therapy approved in April. It costs $93,000 a year and adds four months' survival, on average, for men with incurable prostate tumors. Bob Svensson is honest about why he got it: insurance paid.

"I would not spend that money," because the benefit doesn't seem worth it, says Svensson, 80, a former corporate finance officer from Bedford, Mass.

His supplemental Medicare plan is paying while the government decides whether basic Medicare will cover Provenge and for whom. The tab for taxpayers could be huge — prostate is the most common cancer in American men. Most of those who have it will be eligible for Medicare, and Provenge will be an option for many late-stage cases. A meeting to consider Medicare coverage is set for Nov. 17.

"I don't know how they're going to deal with that kind of issue," said Svensson, who was treated at the Lahey Clinic Medical Center in suburban Boston. "I feel very lucky."

For the last decade, new cancer-fighting drugs have been topping $5,000 a month. Only a few of these keep cancer in remission so long that they are, in effect, cures. For most people, the drugs may buy a few months or years. Insurers usually pay if Medicare pays. But some people have lifetime caps and more people are uninsured because of job layoffs in the recession. The nation's new health care law eliminates these lifetime limits for plans that were issued or renewed on Sept. 23 or later.

Celgene Corp.'s Revlimid pill for multiple myeloma, a type of blood cancer, can run as much as $10,000 a month; so can Genentech's Avastin for certain cancers. Now Dendreon Corp.'s Provenge rockets price into a new orbit.

Unlike drugs that people can try for a month or two and keep using only if they keep responding, Provenge is an all-or-nothing $93,000 gamble. It's a one-time treatment to train the immune system to fight prostate tumors, the first so-called cancer vaccine. Part of why it costs so much is that it's not a pill cranked out in a lab, but a treatment that is individually prepared, using each patient's cells and a protein found on most prostate cancer cells. It is expensive and time-consuming to make.

It's also in short supply, forcing the first rationing of a cancer drug since Taxol and Taxotere were approved 15 years ago. At the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, doctors plan a modified lottery to decide which of its 150 or so eligible patients will be among the two a month it can treat with Provenge. An insurance pre-check is part of the process to ensure they financially qualify for treatment.

"I'm fearful that this will become a drug for people with more resources and less available for people with less resources," said M.D. Anderson's prostate cancer research chief, Dr. Christopher Logothetis.

For other patients on other drugs, money already is affecting care:

• Job losses have led some people to stop taking Gleevec, a $4,500-a-month drug by Novartis AG that keeps certain leukemias and stomach cancers in remission. Three such cases were recently described in the New England Journal of Medicine, and all those patients suffered relapses.

• Retirements are being delayed to preserve insurance coverage of cancer drugs. Holly Reid, 58, an accountant in Novato, Calif., hoped to retire early until she tried cutting back on Gleevec and her cancer recurred. "I'm convinced now I have to take this drug for the rest of my life" and will have to work until eligible for Medicare, she said.

• Lifetime caps on insurance benefits are hitting many patients, and laws are being pushed in dozens of states to get wider coverage of cancer drugs. In Quincy, Mass., 30-year-old grad student Thea Showstack testified for one such law after pharmacists said her first cancer prescription exceeded her student insurance limit. "They said 'OK, that will be $1,900,'" she said. "I was absolutely panicked." The federal health care law forbids such caps on plans issued or renewed Sept. 23 or later.

• Tens of thousands of people are seeking help from drug companies and charities that provide free medicines or cover copays for low-income patients. Genentech's aid to patients has risen in each of the last three years and the company says nearly 85 percent of Americans earn less than $100,000, making them potentially eligible for help if no other programs like Medicaid will pay.

• Doctors and insurers increasingly are doing the cruel math that many cancer patients want to avoid, and questioning how much small improvements in survival are worth. A recent editorial in a medical journal asked whether the extra 11 weeks that Genentech's Herceptin buys for stomach cancer patients justified the $21,500 cost.

Doctors also have questioned the value of Genentech's Tarceva for pancreatic cancer. The $4,000-a-month drug won approval by boosting median survival by a mere 12 days. Here's how to think about this cost: People who added Tarceva to standard chemotherapy lived nearly 6 1/2 months, versus 6 months for those on chemo alone. So the Tarceva folks spent more than $24,000 to get those extra 12 days.

When is a drug considered cost-effective?

The most widely quoted figure is $50,000 for a year of life, "though it has been that for decades — never really adjusted — and not written in stone," said Dr. Harlan Krumholz, a Yale University expert on health care costs.

Many cancer drugs are way over that mark. Estimates of the cost of a year of life gained for lung cancer patients on Erbitux range from $300,000 to as much as $800,000, said Dr. Len Lichtenfeld, the American Cancer Society's deputy chief medical officer.

Higher costs seem to be more accepted for cancer treatment than for other illnesses, but there's no rule on how much is too much, he said.

Insurers usually are the ones to decide, and they typically pay if Medicare pays. Medicare usually pays if the federal Food and Drug Administration has approved the use.

"Insurance sort of isolates you from the cost of health care," and if people lose coverage, they often discover they can't afford their medicines, said Dr. Alan Venook, a cancer specialist at the University of California, San Francisco. He wrote in the New England Journal in August about three of his patients who stopped taking or cut back on Gleevec because of economic hardship.

Two of the three now are getting the drug from its maker, Novartis AG, which like most pharmaceutical companies has a program for low-income patients. About 5,000 patients got help for Gleevec last year, said Novartis spokesman Geoffrey Cook.

"We have seen a steady increase in requests over the past few years" as the economy worsened, he said.

Showstack, whose leukemia was diagnosed last year, gets Gleevec from Novartis. The dose she's on now would cost $50,000 a year.

"I'm not actually sure that I know anyone who could afford it," she said.

Gleevec's cost is easier to justify, many say, because it keeps people alive indefinitely — a virtual cure. About 2,300 Americans died each year of Showstack's form of leukemia before Gleevec came on the market; only 470 did last year.

"I don't think we quibble with a drug that buys people magical quality of life for years," Venook said.

It's unclear whether Provenge will ever do that — it needs to be tested in men with earlier stages of prostate cancer, doctors say. So far, it has only been tried and approved for men with incurable disease who have stopped responding to hormone therapy. On average, it gave them four months more, though for some it extended survival by a year or more.

Until it shows wider promise, enthusiasm will be tepid, said Dr. Elizabeth Plimack a prostate specialist at the Fox Chase Cancer Center in Philadelphia.

"I've not had any patient ask for it," she said. "They ask about it. Based on the information, they think the cost is tremendous, and they think the benefit is very small."

Logothetis, at M.D. Anderson, said Provenge and other experimental cancer vaccines in development need "a national investment" to sort out their potential, starting with Medicare coverage.

"It's no longer a fringe science. This is working," he said. "We need to get it in the door so we can evolve it."

Wednesday, September 22, 2010

Titanic sunk by steering mistake, author says

LONDON (Reuters) – The Titanic hit an iceberg in 1912 because of a basic steering error, and only sank as fast as it did because an official persuaded the captain to continue sailing, an author said in an interview published on Wednesday.

Louise Patten, a writer and granddaughter of Titanic second officer Charles Lightoller, said the truth about what happened nearly 100 years ago had been hidden for fear of tarnishing the reputation of her grandfather, who later became a war hero.

Lightoller, the most senior officer to have survived the disaster, covered up the error in two inquiries on both sides of the Atlantic because he was worried it would bankrupt the ill-fated liner's owners and put his colleagues out of a job.

"They could easily have avoided the iceberg if it wasn't for the blunder," Patten told the Daily Telegraph.




"Instead of steering Titanic safely round to the left of the iceberg, once it had been spotted dead ahead, the steersman, Robert Hitchins, had panicked and turned it the wrong way."

Patten, who made the revelations to coincide with the publication of her new novel "Good as Gold" into which her account of events are woven, said that the conversion from sail ships to steam meant there were two different steering systems.

[Video: A closer look at the Titanic disaster]

Crucially, one system meant turning the wheel one way and the other in completely the opposite direction.

Once the mistake had been made, Patten added, "they only had four minutes to change course and by the time (first officer William) Murdoch spotted Hitchins' mistake and then tried to rectify it, it was too late."

Patten's grandfather was not on watch at the time of the collision, but he was present at a final meeting of the ship's officers before the Titanic went down.

There he heard not only about the fatal mistake but also the fact that J. Bruce Ismay, chairman of Titanic's owner the White Star Line persuaded the captain to continue sailing, sinking the ship hours faster than would otherwise have happened.

"If Titanic had stood still, she would have survived at least until the rescue ship came and no one need have died," Patten said.

The RMS Titanic was the world's biggest passenger liner when it left Southampton, England, for New York on its maiden voyage on April 10, 1912. Four days into the trip, the ship hit an iceberg and sank, taking more than 1,500 passengers with it.




Sunday, August 8, 2010

KL-PERLIS-THAI






SALAM semua....ALOO..ALOOO..hahaha

Sekian lama xupdate blog xseberapa nie...jeng jeng jeng..rajin plak tangan nak sing-in blog nie..takde task la katakan kat ofice (konon2)..alang2 menyeluk pekasam..biarla sampai ke pangkal lengan..ada cerita best..kasi update la..xder cerita..senyap bisu jela..(btol x)

6-8 Ogos..3 hari kot p jln2 kikis duit gaji..pokai den bulan nie..baget nak makan angin la (konon)..sepanjang jalan aku kikis duit bank...terlajak perahu boleh diundur..terlajak berbelanja padan muke..

3 days berjalan2 sekitar negeri Perlis Indera Kayangan..mcm2 aku tengok..mcm2 aku mkn..mcm2 aku buat..semua macam la katakan..

Thanks 2 mr kamal ariff..my officemate frend..menumpangkan sepanjang perjalanan mlm hari pertama berangkat pergi ke perlis pukul 1 a.m..kredit 2 maksu n paksu kamal(aku xingat plak nama depa) yang story kat aku mcm2 benda kat Perlis nie..anak2 paksu n maksu, yang manaja gler nagn orang luaq mcm aku..kira friendly family la nie..sempoi and happy jer aku tengok sepanjang 3 hari 2..


Makan Best n Spara pelik Di rumah Maksu!!!






Rumpai Laut (Best n Pelik)
aku xtau plak benda alah ni bley dimakan..tp..sekali mkn..mesti mau di tambah..dicicah dengan sambal belacan..buat2 makan mcm mkn ulam jer..ngap skali ngan nasi..sodap kot..rugi xtry kwn2..
selalu kalu kt p pulau kt dok lihat n buang ja benda tu..rupa2nya bleh di mkn jgk..



Ikan Pekasam
Ni satu benda lg aku dok syok tengok adik maksue pancing kat depan paya umah dia..aku ingatkan
nak guna untuk buat umpan pada ikan besar..rupa2nya utk hidangan makan luch kot...kecik-kecik jer ikan dia kot..Tapi, bile da digorng utk pekasam..perg..sedap la pulak...



Pulut Ayam (Best)!!

Ni bukan sebarang pulut nie..lain dari yang lain..biasanyakan kat Kl mkn pulut kuning ngan cicah sambal rendang.kat Perlis plak pulut putih mkan dengan ayam panggang n di cicah dengan sambal manis2 pedas..kenyang gak mkan benda nie..nie hidangan utk menu di petang hari.sempoi la mksu..trimas.mmg best n kenyang..



Padang Besar ( Aktiviti menghabiskan duit )




Ini bab,mmg aku xleh nak cover2..jumpa je benda kau nak..mesti aku sambar..mengenangkan da ada limitation jer utk berbelanja ari 2..so..tahan jela nafsu belanja 2 yer encik hazwan..dari jersy..baju t-shirt..kerongsoang (mak aku kirim n utk kwn2).beg2 laptop..keropok n kerepek..
kira sume benda 2 la aku dok bli..memang belanja sakan aku time 2..









sooooo...kwn2..kalu nak bli belah sakan dengan penuh penjimatan..dtgla cni..mcm2 ada kot...jauh beza ngan harga kat KL 2..mau 2 3 ganda...

kalu nak berniaga ker..nak bg hadiah ker..sesuai la dtg cni..dari makanan hinggala ke barang2..
sumea ada...


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Hari Kedua




Selamat Datang ke Jeti Kuala Perlis!!!

Mkn..mkn..mkn...mcm mana la x gemok..hahah..

Uissshhhh..best gleeeerrr...









Sotong TErBaik!!banyak plak 2..rangup dan garing...




Ni pon satu lg benda baru aku try..sosage di luar..pulut didalam..di bakar..mmg best!!



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Last Day...


Mcm biasa..pg dok breakfast nasi lemak utara..xbanyak beza pon ngan yang kat KL





Pas makan maksu bawak p ladang kuda kat mana pon aku xingat..yang aku tau btul2 sebelah Kilang Gula Felda Perlis ...kira kat tengah2 ladang tebu 2 la port baik kuda 2 dibawa berjalan..









Kudanya xla banyak sangat..yg aku dengar dari mulut maksu ia milik Tengku..tengku aper pon aku xsure dah..yang pasti muke dia selalu kuar tv kot ada siaran tentang program permotoran..huhuu(mudah lupa la katakan)





Bukit Kayu Itam - DANOK






Ni kira first time la kau masuk sempadan...tq to maksu n paksu yg sudi membawa kami berjalan2 n makan2..sambil2 cuci mata la...

huuhu...giler panas port nie..da lain macm aku masuk..seberang jer kot dari Bukit Kayu itam 2...

Antara menu makanan..aku upload kan..



Menu Daging Salai Bkar...best..garing!!






Tomyamnyer pon mmg kau..penuh isi n rasa..mmg thai mari..(kalu kat kl..banyak daun n semak jer dlm 2)





Termasukla dengan telur, sayur campur , ayam panggang n air soya...Menu hidnagan utk 7 org..rm80..thanks mksu..blanja mkn..kenyang saya...

yang bestnyer kat cni..boleh buat urusan jual beli pakai duit Bath n Malaysia..tp giler murah la barang dia...jauh beza ngan barang kat Malaysia...


--------------------- Pukul 10.pm bertolak balik / 4a.m sampai S.ALAM---------------------

Friday, July 23, 2010

"スタック"

私はベッドの今日得ることができない
またはオフに私の心を得る
私は方法を見つけることができないよう
背後にある愛をしたままにする

私はtrippinではない
私はあなたが不足している
あなたは私が言ってるのよ
あなたは私の言いたいこと知っている

あなたは私は、文字列からぶら下がっ保管
なぜあなたは私に叫びする?
私はあなたのすべてを与えることを試みた
しかし、あなたは私に与えてくれたうそをつく

時折
私はすべての人よ
私はあなたが電話で私を呼ぶよう希望する
あなたは私を欲しがっている
しかし、あなたは決してしない
私はこのような馬鹿のように感じる
私ができることはない...だ
私はこのような馬鹿だ
あなたのために

-use google translate-

Monday, July 19, 2010

A few secrets of the "Mona Lisa."




PARIS – The enigmatic smile remains a mystery, but French scientists say they have cracked a few secrets of the "Mona Lisa." French researchers studied seven of the Louvre Museum's Leonardo da Vinci paintings, including the "Mona Lisa," to analyze the master's use of successive ultrathin layers of paint and glaze - a technique that gave his works their dreamy quality.

Specialists from the Center for Research and Restoration of the Museums of France found that da Vinci painted up to 30 layers of paint on his works to meet his standards of subtlety. Added up, all the layers are less than 40 micrometers, or about half the thickness of a human hair, researcher Philippe Walter said Friday.

The technique, called "sfumato," allowed da Vinci to give outlines and contours a hazy quality and create an illusion of depth and shadow. His use of the technique is well-known, but scientific study on it has been limited because tests often required samples from the paintings.






The French researchers used a noninvasive technique called X-ray fluorescence spectroscopy to study the paint layers and their chemical composition.

They brought their specially developed high-tech tool into the museum when it was closed and studied the portraits' faces, which are emblematic of sfumato. The project was developed in collaboration with the European Synchrotron Radiation Facility in Grenoble.

The tool is so precise that "now we can find out the mix of pigments used by the artist for each coat of paint," Walter told The Associated Press. "And that's very, very important for understanding the technique."

The analysis of the various paintings also shows da Vinci was constantly trying out new methods, Walter said. In the "Mona Lisa," da Vinci used manganese oxide in his shadings. In others, he used copper. Often he used glazes, but not always.

The results were published Wednesday in Angewandte Chemie International Edition, a chemistry journal.

Tradition holds that the "Mona Lisa" is a painting of Lisa Gherardini, wife of Florentine merchant Francesco del Giocondo, and that da Vinci started painting it in 1503. Giorgio Vasari, a 16th-century painter and biographer of da Vinci and other artists, wrote that the perfectionist da Vinci worked on it for four years.

Sunday, July 18, 2010

Badminton




The beginnings of Badminton can be traced to mid-18th century British India, where it was created by British military officers stationed there.[2] Early photographs show Englishmen adding a net to the traditional English game of battledore and shuttlecock. Being particularly popular in the British garrison town Poona (now Pune), the game also came to be known as Poona.[2][3] Initially, balls of wool refereed as ball badminton were preferred by the upper classes in windy or wet conditions, but ultimately the shuttlecock stuck. This game was taken by retired officers back to England where it developed and rules were set out.

As early as 1860, Isaac Spratt, a London toy dealer, published a booklet, Badminton Battledore - a new game, but unfortunately no copy has survived.[4]

The new sport was definitively launched in 1873 at the Badminton House, Gloucestershire, owned by the Duke of Beaufort. During that time, the game was referred to as "The Game of Badminton," and the game's official name became Badminton.[5]

Until 1887, the sport was played in England under the rules that prevailed in British India. The Bath Badminton Club standardized the rules and made the game applicable to English ideas. The basic regulations were drawn up in 1887.[5] In 1893, the Badminton Association of England published the first set of rules according to these regulations, similar to today's rules, and officially launched badminton in a house called "Dunbar" at 6 Waverley Grove, Portsmouth, England on September 13 of that year.[6] They also started the All England Open Badminton Championships, the first badminton competition in the world, in 1899.

The International Badminton Federation (IBF) (now known as Badminton World Federation) was established in 1934 with Canada, Denmark, England, France, the Netherlands, Ireland, New Zealand, Scotland, and Wales as its founding members. India joined as an affiliate in 1936. The BWF now governs international badminton and develops the sport globally.

While set out in England, competitive badminton in Europe has traditionally been dominated by Denmark. Indonesia, South Korea, China and Malaysia are among the nations that have consistently produced world-class players in the past few decades and dominated competitions on the international level, with China being the most dominant in recent years.


Laws

The following information is a simplified summary of the Laws, not a complete reproduction. The definitive source of the Laws is the BWF Statutes publication,[7] although the digital distribution of the Laws contains poor reproductions of the diagrams.

Playing court dimensions
Badminton court, isometric view

The court is rectangular and divided into halves by a net. Courts are usually marked for both singles and doubles play, although the laws permit a court to be marked for singles only. The doubles court is wider than the singles court, but both are the same length. The exception, which often causes confusion to newer players, is that the doubles court has a shorter serve-length dimension.

The full width of the court is 6.1 metres (20 ft), and in singles this width is reduced to 5.18 metres (17 ft). The full length of the court is 13.4 metres (44 ft). The service courts are marked by a centre line dividing the width of the court, by a short service line at a distance of 1.98 metres (6 ft 6 inch) from the net, and by the outer side and back boundaries. In doubles, the service court is also marked by a long service line, which is 0.76 metres (2 ft 6 inch) from the back boundary.

The net is 1.55 metres (5 ft 1 inch) high at the edges and 1.524 metres (5 ft) high in the centre. The net posts are placed over the doubles sidelines, even when singles is played.

There is no mention in the Laws of Badminton of a minimum height for the ceiling above the court. Nonetheless, a badminton court will not be suitable if the ceiling is likely to be hit on a high serve.
[edit] Equipment laws

The Laws specify which equipment may be used. In particular, the Laws restrict the design and size of racquets and shuttlecocks. The Laws also provide for testing a shuttlecock for the correct speed:

3.1
To test a shuttlecock, use a full underhand stroke which makes contact with the shuttlecock over the back boundary line. The shuttlecock shall be hit at an upward angle and in a direction parallel to the side lines.

3.2
A shuttlecock of the correct speed will land not less than 530 mm and not more than 990 mm short of the other back boundary line.

[edit] Scoring system and service
Main article: Scoring system development of badminton
[edit] The basics

Each game is played to 21 points, with players scoring a point whenever they win a rally regardless of whether they served [7] (this differs from the old system where players could only win a point on their serve and each game was played to 15 points). A match is the best of three games.

At the start of the rally, the server and receiver stand in diagonally opposite service courts (see court dimensions). The server hits the shuttlecock so that it would land in the receiver's service court. This is similar to tennis, except that a badminton serve must be hit below waist height and with the racquet shaft pointing downwards, the shuttlecock is not allowed to bounce and in badminton, the players stand inside their service courts unlike tennis.

When the serving side loses a rally, the serve immediately passes to their opponent(s) (this differs from the old system where sometimes the serve passes to the doubles partner for what is known as a "second serve").

In singles, the server stands in her/his right service court when her/his score is even, and in her/his left service court when her/his score is odd.

In doubles, if the serving side wins a rally, the same player continues to serve, but s/he changes service courts so that s/he serves to a different opponent each time. If the opponents win the rally and their new score is even, the player in the right service court serves; if odd, the player in the left service court serves. The players' service courts are determined by their positions at the start of the previous rally, not by where they were standing at the end of the rally. A consequence of this system is that, each time a side regains the service, the server will be the player who did not serve last time.
[edit] Details

When the server serves, the shuttlecock must pass over the short service line on the opponents' court or it will count as a fault.

If the score reaches 20-all, then the game continues until one side gains a two point lead (such as 24-22), up to a maximum of 30 points (30-29 is a winning score).

At the start of a match, the shuttlecock is cast and where ever the shuttlecock is pointing that side begins or a coin is tossed. The winners of the coin toss may choose whether to serve or receive first, or they may choose which end of the court they wish to occupy. Their opponents make the remaining choice. In less formal settings, the coin toss is often replaced by hitting a shuttlecock into the air: whichever side the corked end points will be the side that serves first.

In subsequent games, the winners of the previous game serve first. These can also be called rubbers. If one team wins a game they play once more and if they win again they win that match, but if they lose they play one more match to find the winning team. For the first rally of any doubles game, the serving pair may decide who serves and the receiving pair may decide who receives. The players change ends at the start of the second game; if the match reaches a third game, they change ends both at the start of the game and when the leading pair's score reaches 11 points.

The server and receiver must remain within their service courts, without touching the boundary lines, until the server strikes the shuttlecock. The other two players may stand wherever they wish, so long as they do not insight the opposing server or receiver.
[edit] Lets

If a let is called, the rally is stopped and replayed with no change to the score. Lets may occur because of some unexpected disturbance such as a shuttlecock landing on court (having been hit there by players on an adjacent court) or in small halls the shuttle may touch an overhead rail which can be classed as a let.

If the receiver is not ready when the service is delivered, a let shall be called; yet, if the receiver attempts to return the shuttlecock, he shall be judged to have been ready.

There is no let if the shuttlecock hits the tape (even on service).

Thursday, July 15, 2010

Harga Baru Minyak Petrol - Adusss




Semalam aku dapat info dari member ttg news nie..mula2 xpercaya..alik umah plak adik aku pon ckp mcm 2 gak..tak puas ati aku..try surf kat internet..lip-lap2..btol kot..secara pantas aku p trus p.pump..isi penuh kete n moto..

Petrol RON 95 dan RON 97 serta diesel naik 5 sen.
Manakala harga gula pula naik 25 sen, dengan gas LPG naik sebanyak 10 sen sekilogram
Kenaikan semua harga tersebut akan berkuatkuasa mulai tengah malam ini.

Berikut adalah harga baru:
- Petrol RON 95 - RM1.85 seliter.
- Petrol RON 97 - RM2.10 seliter.
- Diesel - RM1.75 seliter.
- Gula - RM1.70 sekilogram
- Gas LPG - RM1.85 sekilogram

Berikut adalah harga baru gas:
* Tong 14KG - dari RM24.50 kepada RM25.90 (naik RM1.40)
* Tong 12KG - dari RM21.00 kepada RM22.20 (naik RM1.20)
* Tong 10KG - dari RM17.50 kepada RM18.50 (naik RM1.00


Apa yang pasti enaikan Petrol dan diesel sudah pastinya akan mengakibatkan kenaikan seluruh harga barang-barang keperluan yang lain...so..bejimat2lah dari sekarang k...